Comments on: Set the “Wayback Machine” to 1989 http://www.centergroveinc.org/2009/09/06/set-the-wayback-machine/ Following the future of White River Township Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:55:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Dann http://www.centergroveinc.org/2009/09/06/set-the-wayback-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-917 Dann Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:28:44 +0000 http://www.centergroveinc.org/?p=2349#comment-917 A Chinese proverb says, "The best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago; the second best time is today." A Chinese proverb says, “The best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago; the second best time is today.”

]]> By: Dann http://www.centergroveinc.org/2009/09/06/set-the-wayback-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-913 Dann Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:49:34 +0000 http://www.centergroveinc.org/?p=2349#comment-913 It's clear that you've been following this very closely. In fact, I think all of your comments are valid to one degree or another. The question is: What truly are our options? People failed to come together (so far) around self-incorporation. I've personally talked with various officials in Bargersville and if they don't have sewers in a given area, they are not interested in making that area part of Bargersville, so that leaves out much of WRT. I am very interested in any other options you may have in mind. I can assure you that we have not "converted" and as long as we are getting people to think, as you obviously are, we are happy. As we've said many times, our goal is that the entire township be incorporated. While we have our personal preferences (such as self-incorporation even five years ago) right now we have a somewhat limited set of options and we have to work within those options. Until we see the plan, there is really nothing to endorse or reject. Thanks for your comments and keep them coming. Regards, Dann It’s clear that you’ve been following this very closely. In fact, I think all of your comments are valid to one degree or another. The question is: What truly are our options? People failed to come together (so far) around self-incorporation. I’ve personally talked with various officials in Bargersville and if they don’t have sewers in a given area, they are not interested in making that area part of Bargersville, so that leaves out much of WRT. I am very interested in any other options you may have in mind.

I can assure you that we have not “converted” and as long as we are getting people to think, as you obviously are, we are happy. As we’ve said many times, our goal is that the entire township be incorporated. While we have our personal preferences (such as self-incorporation even five years ago) right now we have a somewhat limited set of options and we have to work within those options. Until we see the plan, there is really nothing to endorse or reject.

Thanks for your comments and keep them coming.

Regards,
Dann

]]> By: Sadim Murphy http://www.centergroveinc.org/2009/09/06/set-the-wayback-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-912 Sadim Murphy Mon, 07 Sep 2009 02:24:34 +0000 http://www.centergroveinc.org/?p=2349#comment-912 When did you get converted and what price were you paid? Why the shift in thinking? So far, from what has been reported here and in the Daily Journal, Greenwood seems to be getting the better end of this deal, at least in the near term. What the "reorganization" effort has offered Center Grove is the potential for additional parks, and keeping monies in the area for road repairs (but we haven't seen the accounting rules for that yet). We've seen what's in it for Greenwood -- guaranteed additional dollars, additional TIF districts that will negatively affect WRT tax rates for schools and other funds, second class city status that the mayor has wanted for years, and access to lots of development potential. Yes, think what this area will be in 20-30 years. Look east, and see unfinished developments, neighborhoods with collapsing infrastructure (roads, storm & sanitary sewers). More disjointed development -- see 135 and east of I-65 for that. No, Jody, I don't think Greenwood is the best answer. So far, Pat Sherman (aka Charlie Henderson's henchman) has demonstrated that he will negotiate with WRT only when it threatens potential development (see SW portion of twnship) and is a sore loser when he doesn't get his way. Maybe when this "reorganization" fails, can the citizens of WRT approach Bargersville and strike a better deal. Greenwood is hardly our only option. When did you get converted and what price were you paid? Why the shift in thinking? So far, from what has been reported here and in the Daily Journal, Greenwood seems to be getting the better end of this deal, at least in the near term. What the “reorganization” effort has offered Center Grove is the potential for additional parks, and keeping monies in the area for road repairs (but we haven’t seen the accounting rules for that yet).

We’ve seen what’s in it for Greenwood — guaranteed additional dollars, additional TIF districts that will negatively affect WRT tax rates for schools and other funds, second class city status that the mayor has wanted for years, and access to lots of development potential.

Yes, think what this area will be in 20-30 years. Look east, and see unfinished developments, neighborhoods with collapsing infrastructure (roads, storm & sanitary sewers). More disjointed development — see 135 and east of I-65 for that.

No, Jody, I don’t think Greenwood is the best answer. So far, Pat Sherman (aka Charlie Henderson’s henchman) has demonstrated that he will negotiate with WRT only when it threatens potential development (see SW portion of twnship) and is a sore loser when he doesn’t get his way. Maybe when this “reorganization” fails, can the citizens of WRT approach Bargersville and strike a better deal. Greenwood is hardly our only option.

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