Questions that need answers
Monday is the first of two community forums on the planned reorganization of White River Township and Greenwood. The next is Saturday (see the schedule here). Ultimately, voters will have the say, should the Council and Board pass identical versions of the plan. Before we get to that point here are some questions we think the reorganization committee should answer during the forums. Some have been answered before but not in an open forum, others simply still need to be asked. We will have more questions later, and I am sure the public will have many more, but just for starters . . .
1) White River Township is debt free with nearly two year’s worth the budget in the bank, and will soon close on the sale of the bantam football fields, which will add another $250,000 in cash to the township. What happens to the money?
2) How do you respond to Council member Ron Bates’ comments that the plan creates more bureaucracy and inefficiency in the Greenwood government? Read more of Mr. Bates’ comments here.
3) The Plan does not appear to take full advantage of the provision of the law that encourages cooperation between different parts of the government, such as the city and county or the city and the state. Will you please discuss why you did not choose to go down this route, for example for services in White River Township? Specifically the law states:
Applicable Section of the Law
a. IC 36-1.5-1-7
Actions under other laws not prohibited
Sec. 7. This article does not prohibit the:
(1) reorganization of one (1) or more political subdivisions;
(2) exercise of governmental functions under an interlocal cooperation agreement or a cooperative agreement; or
(3) transfer of responsibilities between offices and officers;
under another law that is not included in this article.
As added by P.L.186-2006, SEC.4.
4) The reorganization plan does not appear to be very innovative. Why is does this seem to be the case? If you disagree, please cite the portions of the plan that you see as innovative?
5) Was every meeting of the reorganization committee held under the Indiana Open Meetings law, if so, where can we find the minutes of all meetings since they the last meeting minutes on the committee’s website are from September 3. When will the rest be available?
Applicable Section of the Law
a. IC 36-1.5-1-9 Political subdivisions and reorganization committees subject to open door law and public records law
b. Sec. 9. Political subdivisions and reorganization committees acting under this article are subject to IC 5-14-1.5 (open door law) and IC 5-14-3 (public records law).
5) In the finance section the plan it states, “In order to provide services in the most cost effective manner, the Finance committee is strongly encouraged to seek to provide them to all city departments in a creative and non-traditional manner. In particular, public/private partnerships, where the parties share risk, need to be evaluated.” What specific actions are you taking to support this directive and how will the Finance committee be held accountable for this provision?
6) Many comments have been heard from residents and even elected officials that the plan has gone beyond its scope and started to legislate actions such as “The existing mosquito abatement program in the City of Greenwood shall be extended to the Urban area of the New City.” Do you think that the plan exceeds its scope goes beyond looking at the viability of reorganization and providing a plan to merge the two political units?
7) The financial figures released so far show minimal impact in the finances for the first year of the “new Greenwood”. However, much of the area soon to become part of Bargersville is rich in commercial development potential. When you look five years down the road how to you believe the loss of that area will affect our projected tax situation? Are these figures available? If not, given that they are critical in making an informed decision, when do you expect these figures to be available?
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8 Responses to “Questions that need answers”
The plan as currently presented (Governance) is strictly a mandate for the Mayor to run the show. What’s the point of having a council at $14k per head? To give the Mayor, the finance reins via a comptroller of his choice, is a “deal breaker”.
Comment made on November 30th, 2009 at 1:14 amWhat’s wrong with a City manager instead. The manager would be responsible to the council who report to the voters. Drop the office of Mayor.
All elected offices are for a 2 year term.
Ed: That question came up tonight at the forum, what about a city manager form of government. Don Hanlin stated they discussed it but no one ever asked about it. Seems he forgot that I was at subcommittee meeting and asked about it. When it was mentioned as an option that is possible under the reorganization law someone says “Charlie would never stand for that” to which the response was a lot of laughter. We have the tape, guess I need to start digging in the archives.
Comment made on November 30th, 2009 at 9:27 pmThe bantam football fields can’t be sold to the Bantam football organization – they’re not a 501 charity as required by state law.
Comment made on December 1st, 2009 at 3:39 pmJoe is exactly correct. State law requires this property go to bid to be disposed of. More WRT dollars being given away.
Comment made on December 1st, 2009 at 10:21 pmFirst comment would be what a great job you guys did in presenting this information on your web site so quickly. Complete and well organized.
With respect to financial projections, I view that as an impossible task–too many fuzzy variables to deal with –AV estimate, population estimate, expense estimates, non property tax revenue estimates, estimating impact of 1% cap. If the 1% cap has as much impact as appears to be the case, there will have to be some sort of city or county income tax imposed to pay for the property tax shortfall. So if WRT residents merge with Greenwood expect not only an increase due to the city tax but also a subsequent city or county income tax increase
Comment made on December 2nd, 2009 at 11:05 pmRegarding the plan not being innovative: To me proposing the merger under the new statute 36-1.5 is innovative in itself. If “innovative” means changing to a city manager plan or making significant changes in how city services are obtained, I would offer that just selling the merger idea alone is a big chunk for residents to swallow. The added confusion created by including a major change in form of government or services would be a deal breaker. Take one step at a time.
Comment made on December 3rd, 2009 at 10:28 amWhile you have a point, Mark, I think one of the major failings of the Reorganization Committee has been in it’s apparent inability to create a compelling story on why the reorganization is good for both WRT and GW. While personally I think that public/private partnerships should be part of that story, it is not a manditory feature. First they just need to provide us with a vision of a vibrant community that benefits all the residents, something that I think they have yet to do.
Comment made on December 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 pmThe goal of the Reorg Committee was to present an objective picture of what the result of a merger might be. Then let the public vote on whether they liked that picture. I believe that the perception now may be that the Reorg Comm is promoting a merger rather than remaining neutral. People are looking for a TANGIBLE upside to offset the TANGIBLE downside of a tax increase. Is there one?
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