Trustee townhall: All negative, no solutions
(Commentary) Here are my thoughts after Tuesday night’s town hall meeting, hosted by Jay Marks the White River Township Trustee. I was pleased to see the high attendance; although more representation from younger residents in the northern part of the township would be have been a positive thing. No fault to Mr. Marks on this one, he did a great job of promoting the event through the use of portable signs throughout the township.
What really bothered me was the negative tone of the event. All we heard was what was wrong, in their opinion, with the reorganization proposal. Solutions were not part of the official presentation. Only, at the very end, after many had left, did some possible solution get suggested. And then, only after some pointed questioning by an attendee. Then Marks decided to share his experience in visiting the Atlanta, GA area and the communities there that have successfully incorporated under the public-private partnership model, an approach that allows a town of 90-thousand to have only six full time employees. Of course, this was not part of the initial presentation, which was reserved for criticizing the reorganization plan. The plan is not immune to criticism; I just think if you are going to tear something down, you should also provide a positive alternative.
I was struck by the large map that was prominently displayed as the meeting opened and then off-and-on throughout the evening. It only showed the portion of White River Township south of Stones Crossing Road. It’s interesting that the Trustee, who multiple times claimed to “represent all of White River Township,” chose a map the ignored fully half of the land area of WRT and, by my guess, 30-thousand of its residents. What did it show? It showed the area where Bargersville provides sewer service. Incidentally, the ability to provide sewer service is the key criteria that the town uses when deciding which areas to annex. It was a map of the future Bargersville! So, why were there white, un-annexed, areas on the map? Because they fall within three miles of the Greenwood city limits and they didn’t want to pick yet another fight with Greenwood. I want to be clear, while this is an opinion piece; the information stated above is factual and gathered from private and public meetings concerning the annexations. Jay, why did you not show a map of all of White River Township? I would really appreciate it if you would respond by providing a comment to this article. There may be a reason that I’m not thinking of and I’m open to hearing it.
One other thing caught my ear. Consistently, we have heard about how the fine people in the southwestern portion of the township want to join with Bargersville because the town will allow them to continue their traditional agricultural way of life. This was the primary drumbeat throughout the public hearings on the voluntary annexation: Let farmers be farmers. Now, last night, we hear the Township Accountant say that the 10-year tax relief provided to agricultural land will probably not mean much, since much of that land will be commercially developed within ten years anyway. So which is it? Is the intent of Bargersville to preserve a traditional way of life or capture some of the most valuable remaining commercial land in the township? There is nothing wrong with either option, but you can’t have it both ways.
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8 Responses to “Trustee townhall: All negative, no solutions”
Dan,
I was at the meeting last night, but viewed it differently than you. Opposing? Yes. Negative? No. Because contrasting information to that which has been presented by others was highlighted, doesn’t mean that the meeting wasn’t constructive or helpful. I think Mr. Peters was clear in his opening statements that his intention was to do exactly that; therefore, I expected nothing less. I came from that meeting with a lot of information, and I’m looking forward to the next meeting to hear more on the subject.
Comment made on December 16th, 2009 at 9:28 pmIt’s been very interesting to watch Jay Marks oppose any merger/reorganization efforts from Day One.
His “concerns” about property taxes are exposed as false when you realize the amount of money he’s spent on the football fields, which the public can’t even use, and which he’s now giving away, which will cost us all even more money.
So what is his motive?
Comment made on December 17th, 2009 at 12:09 amTuesdays meeting was my first attendance on this issue. I have been following it closely in the news and from private conversation so I am not uninformed. But I do believe my take on the meeting is a bit more simplistic. I did not find it negative but merely completing unanswered questions from the committee and Pat Sherman. The comittee and Pat Sherman have stated multiple times that the tax rate in the study does not take into account the Bargersville annexations (or storm water fees). We now see what that means…completed answers. The map I understood as trying to show where the annexations were to further understand the additional tax info they were providing. If there are underlying motives, I cannot answer, but the facts seemed appropriate information for the subject at hand. Concerning the farm tax issue, no one including the merge committe or Bargersville is going to keep developed farm land as Ag tax abated property. Develpoment is always taxed according to its tax classification. So I see no agenda there. Please keep it coming.
Comment made on December 17th, 2009 at 11:27 amI think resident’s need to look at the big picture. Most likely WRT is not going to remain a separate entity. We have no way of protecting ourselves from annexation or mergers since we’re not incorporated. I really don’t want to see WRT parceled out any more than it already is. Plus, if this merger doesn’t go through, then I don’t want to see us forced into annexation.
I live on the north side of WRT and have for 33 years. I feel more of a connection with Greenwood than I do Bargersville. I think the residents really need to demand amendments to the plan so that it’s more economically feasible and politically balanced for us. Otherwise, myself and many others won’t vote for this merger.
Comment made on December 17th, 2009 at 2:26 pmMike, We will keep it coming as long as we get great comments like yours and others on this site. The whole idea is to get people talking. Thanks for participating!
Comment made on December 17th, 2009 at 6:48 pmJay has opposed the merger because unlike the Township Board, he hears what the people in White River Township want, not the leadership of Greenwood. People need to listen to the comments from the Mayor and Chairman. If you think Greenwood wants to help the citizens of WRT, why didn’t they try to annex it? Because it’s all about SR37/ I69. They said they were looking more at 5-10 Years down the road. THINK!!! What will be finished in that time frame? I69 giving the city two more interchanges for commercial growth.
Comment made on December 20th, 2009 at 12:28 pmWRT needs to step up, incorporate with a public/private approach and not have to address this issue again.
“The people”? Please. The majority of people have yet to speak on the matter.
SR37 / I69 isn’t going to provide enough of a tax base to make a city of 40,000 work.
I’d love to self-incorporate but that ship sailed. Best idea right now is convincing Bargersville to make a proposal.
For all those long-time residents of WRT who don’t want to be part of either, you should have told your county officials not to build so many subdivisions without them being part of an existing city.
Comment made on December 22nd, 2009 at 8:55 amTo Mayor Henderson (Greenwood): Please take your personal agenda (i.e. proposed “merger”) somewhere other than WRT. “NOT INTERESTED”!!!
Comment made on December 28th, 2009 at 2:38 pmLeave a Comment